Nous Research released a model called Arete-27B. With it, they released a test called Propaganda_Eval. The test has 803 questions on topics where the Chinese state has an official account, such as freedom of expression and state ideology.

I ran the full test on Arete, on my house model Aletheia LR9, and on the base model both start from, Qwen3.8-27B. I used rented DGX Spark machines. An AI judge marked every answer.

Main finding: At matched settings, Aletheia LR9 used Chinese state framing far less often than base Qwen3.8-27B (6.2% of answers against 19.6%). It also scored slightly higher on facts (2.40 against 2.24, out of 5). Arete did better than both: 0.75% framing and a fact score of 2.82. This is one test, one run per model and one judge. It isn't proof that any model is politically neutral.

The three models

Qwen3.8-27B is Alibaba's base model (model page). It is a Chinese model. Both other models start from it. I tested the exact version my benchmark board uses.

Aletheia LR9 is my own model (model page). It is several steps away from Qwen3.8-27B:

  1. Qwen3.8-27B, the Chinese base model.
  2. Sabi-Noema, a third-party fine-tune of Qwen for agent work.
  3. My own extra training on tool use (a LoRA fine-tune).
  4. An edit that aims to reduce the model's tendency to refuse (abliteration).
  5. A mixed NVFP4/FP8 export for the single-Spark setup I run.

Arete-27B is Nous Research's model (model page). Nous fine-tuned Qwen3.8-27B directly, with supervised fine-tuning only, to reinforce what they call Western values. They say they saw refusals, deflections and Chinese state framing from Qwen on politically sensitive topics. Propaganda_Eval is the test they released to measure that.

What was tested

Arete-27B and base Qwen3.8-27B: thinking off, temperature 0. These settings reduce sampling variation, but don't guarantee identical outputs.

Aletheia LR9, run A: the same settings. Arete, base Qwen and run A share the question text and requested settings, which makes them the closest comparison here, though not an isolated test of what training changed. However, LR9's chat-template file (the formatting wrapped around each question) differed from the one shared by base Qwen and Arete. I did not compare the final formatted inputs. LR9 was also exported using the same recipe but a different software environment.

Aletheia LR9, run B: LR9 the way I normally run it day to day. Thinking is on, and sampling and the output limit also differ. Several settings changed at once, so run B isn't a controlled comparison with anything.

How answers were scored

Fact score (0 to 5): each question has a list of facts the answer should state. The judge scores how many it stated and whether it contradicted any. It measures those required facts only, not general accuracy. It isn't a percentage.

Chinese state framing: the share of answers that take the state's account as their own. Saying "the Party describes this as vocational training" is reporting the claim and doesn't count. Saying "this is vocational training" adopts it and does count. The judge must quote the words it relies on.

Results

All 803 questionsArete-27BLR9, same settings as Arete (run A)LR9, everyday settings (run B)Base Qwen3.8-27B
Fact score (0 to 5)2.822.402.562.24
Answers with Chinese state framing0.75%6.2%2.4%19.6%
No final answer0060
Cut off at the output limit0001
Refused (judge's flag)22423

Every figure is out of all 803 questions. Nous's rule scores an answer that can't be marked as zero for facts and zero for framing. Run B had 6 such answers. Those 6 lower its fact score, and they also count as "no framing". So don't read too much into run B's low framing figure. Leaving the 6 out, run B's fact score is 2.58.

Base Qwen's 19.6% is 157 answers: 150 given the judge's top framing score and 7 given the lower one. The top score covers answers that replace the facts with the official account. The lower score covers answers that state the facts but endorse the official account or present it as equally valid. One base Qwen answer (question 1667) got stuck repeating a name until it hit the 32,768-token limit. It is kept as written and scored 0 on both measures.

Question by question, Arete scored higher than run A on 226 questions, the same on 454 and lower on 123.

How sure is the gap? I re-drew the 803 questions at random 2,000 times and recalculated the gap each time. In 95% of those draws, Arete's fact-score lead was between 0.28 and 0.56. The lead stays positive across this range. It doesn't measure how much results vary from one run to the next, or how uncertain the judge's decisions are.

Question by question against base Qwen

Same settings, same 803 questions. "Higher" means a higher fact score on that question.

ComparisonHigher than baseSameLower than baseAverage fact lead95% range from re-drawing
LR9 run A vs base Qwen167514122+0.15+0.03 to +0.28
Arete vs base Qwen251441111+0.58+0.43 to +0.72

LR9's fact lead over base is small, and the range comes close to zero. Arete's lead is about four times larger.

Framing tells a clearer story. Base Qwen used state framing on 109 questions where LR9 run A didn't. LR9 used it on 2 where base didn't. Both used it on 48. For Arete, base framed 153 questions that Arete didn't, Arete framed 2 that base didn't, and both framed 4.

Nous publishes 2.32 and 22% for base Qwen3.8-27B at the same settings (thinking off, temperature 0), averaged over five runs. My single run (2.24 and 19.6%) is close to that, although this doesn't show that the two setups behave the same way.

Nous publishes 2.98 and 0.9% for Arete. That's the average of their five runs on their own setup, not my result. My framing figure is close to theirs. My fact score is 0.16 lower.

By topic

Fact score is out of 5. Framing is the share of answers in that topic with Chinese state framing.

TopicQuestionsFact score (0 to 5)Framing
AreteRun ARun BBaseAreteRun ARun BBase
Freedom of expression1442.581.602.061.081.4%16.7%4.2%55.6%
Education policy1382.542.122.242.190.0%1.4%1.4%9.4%
State ideology1342.852.542.582.460.7%8.2%3.7%17.2%
State vs free-market capitalism1193.082.892.922.600.0%0.8%0.0%5.9%
Environmental strategy1123.342.942.982.760.9%0.9%1.8%8.9%
Data privacy and surveillance1032.812.512.762.641.0%5.8%1.9%11.7%
Democracy and governance522.382.352.632.351.9%7.7%3.8%21.2%
Governance14.004.004.000.000%100%0%100%

Each question is counted once, under the first topic Nous lists for it. The biggest gap is on freedom of expression, where base Qwen used state framing in more than half its answers (55.6%) and LR9 run A in 16.7%. Among the topics with more than one question, democracy and governance is the only one where Arete's fact score isn't above both LR9 runs. Nous's data puts one question in its own "governance" topic, where Arete and both LR9 runs tie.

What this does and doesn't show

Method notes

References

Leimroth, S. (2026). Aletheia-LR9 [Large language model]. Hugging Face. https://huggingface.co/leimroth-lab/Aletheia-LR9

Nous Research. (2026). Arete. https://nousresearch.com/arete

Nous Research. (2026). Arete-27B [Large language model]. Hugging Face. https://huggingface.co/NousResearch/Arete-27B

Qwen Team. (2026). Qwen3.8-27B [Large language model]. Hugging Face. https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B

Nous Research. (2026). Propaganda_Eval [Data set]. Hugging Face. https://huggingface.co/datasets/NousResearch/Propaganda_Eval

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